80 weeks of road works
Wed, 17/05/2006 - 08:14 — Anonymous
ok people lets have some comments to a new thread , how many pacvks of paracetamol are going to be bought from the shops over the 80week fiasco that we are going to have to endure and hoqw many people are going to sugffer some kind of road rage over the 80 week period ????????? :comp
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Weel Braggs if last wiks fiasco in portlethen , broon watter nae watter cloudy watter is your idea o minimal disruption,god help them in portlethen when real disruption happens.
I would have to agree with Brothspoiler - its been a nightmare at Portlethen whatever time of day you try and get into town. Now the temporary traffic lights are back beside Asda. I now do asda shopping in an evening as its about the only time I can get there under 20 minutes and I live 2 minutes away by car.:signsigh:
Quote"They have been managed properly with little disruption." Unquote
They have not been managed properly and there has been massive disruption to the people of Portlethen and others, and not just roads, look at the water fiasco last week. If thats your interpretation of "managed properly" I hope you are never put in charge of any of it. I was on of those that had water like cocoa. Its a fiasco and the Ringmaster is Stuart Milne who appears to be teflon coated. :protest:
You must work for SM then,in my opinion which I am perfectly entitled to they have NOT been managed with minimal disruption,I believe the Badentoy interchange is now some ten weeks past its due date of opening and the disruption caused by that is anything but minimal.The roadworks in Market Street have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with whats happening between the harbour flyover and Portlethen.I have work colleagues who are finding it very difficult to get onto the "dual carriageway" out of portlethen because selfish motorists do not give way and would sit nose to tail rather than allow someone onto the road,would you be one of these by any chance.
Taking 40mins to get from the harbour exit to portlethen is not minimal disruption.
Could that be because of the Market Street roadworks?
There is a dual carriageway throughout the entire length of the roadworks.
The only disruption is a slightly reduced speed limit, and in rush hour (when I drive through the roadworks) it's pretty hard to get past 50 mph anyway.
Broth Spoiler stop being negative nancy and cheer up. They have been managed properly with little disruption.
:protest: Well as the traffic has been diverted through Portlethen it has certainly been problematic here. I have sat at the end of my road for 20 minutes waiting for a break in the traffic to get out :werecomingforyou: .
Seen it at a standstill just off the flyover heading into town, and at a standstill coming back at the harbour slip road. So I would have to disagree with you. :mrgreen:
Taking 40mins to get from the harbour exit to portlethen is not minimal disruption.
I'll have to agree with Briggs..........for the scale of work going on I think it's something that has actually been managed properly to minimise disruption for a change mopedsmile:
May not have affected the road but it has affected all the poor sods using it.
I dont know what everyone is moaning about.
The roadworks have barely affected the road at all.
Roadworks at Portlethen haven't been that bad, its the works at Market street that seem to be causing more problems!
i am quite surprised that there hasn't been more chaos in the mornings - we will probably have to start each day in trepidation of what is to come and when for the next 80 weeks (or what is left of them) so far so good :P
Started they have and the second entrance into Portlethen is closed should anyone use it to nip into Asda or the chipper.
Its been a nightmare trying to get out today - the traffic is non stop - 20 minutes I waited and it was a nice lady who let me out not a break in the traffic. :eeeeek:
Started they have and the second entrance into Portlethen is closed should anyone use it to nip into Asda or the chipper.
Not much nipping being dont last night BS it was chocabloc at both of the roundabouts.
Will probably do me the world of good not getting to buy fish suppers. :mrgreen:
Unfortunatley sherlock, thats the way it is for all of us. I'm sure if you had your sirens on folk would move as best they can.
Detouring an emergency vehicle through Portlethen could cost a life. I was taking patients back to Newtonhill after their appointments and had to sit in traffic going through Portlethen, even if i had the sirens on I would have found it difficult. Did anyone on the council consider this and have they spoken to the emergency services, does anyone know.I asked my boss and he said he would ask but it was the first he heard when I mentioned it.
Started they have and the second entrance into Portlethen is closed should anyone use it to nip into Asda or the chipper.
Had occasion to come home the other night at tea time rush hour and what a nightmare all the way from ARI, its not something I miss I must admit. Going to be pretty horrendous for the 80 weeks, glad I wont be contributing to the chaos. :bounncy:
The dualler is a hive of activity or cones depending on your take on it.
It surely is Florence, the holidays start next week I believe but this friday for the Portlethen academy kids of which several dozen kids from Newtonhill attend,so people any shennanigans will be a week earlier and for a week longer this year. :whipitgood:
Is the cones going up on the dualler a sign of imminent commencement of the aforementioned roadworks then. :bounncy: When do the school holidays start? :mrgreen:
Grumps I was thinking the same and after careful deliberation of the work I realised its a two man job.Hence the 80 weeks.
80 Days of Roadworks
You know it might be an idea for all you doubters to have the odd positive thought !!!!
Maybe Aberdeenshire Council will get it right this time and we wont have a terrible 80 weeks.
Alright, I know I am talking rubbish but.............................if its taking them 80 weeks to do what I have seen details of then they can only be working 4 hrs a day !! Mind you maybe that is 7 to 9 in the morning and 4 to 6 in the afternoon?
Any council roads planners out there ? Tell me I'm wrong please!!
mornin a porty refugee here stickin my oar in.....some of this confusion could
be the result of asda staff mannin that station and dishing out info....my wife was told all traffic....but we wait and see and hope that the waitin isnt the wrong thing to do..
Boring
Why don't we all just wait until it happens and then we'll know ??
:3some:
oooh and ps, another thought, if it was indeed a total southbound closure and not northbound, why divert through Portlethen when they could just set up a contraflow on the north side like they did with the other roadworks......
Diane - off for a wee lie down now xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ooooh Broth Spoiler, you made me have to go and look at that map again :P :P - and I still see it the way I saw it before. The plan states that it is for the 'Southbound Slip at Badentoy Closure Diversion Route' - not A90 closure, and the only thing marked in red as being closed is the off ramp at Badentoy not the A90. So my interpretation of southbound diversion is traffic going to the south of Portlethen, as they are indeed 'southbound', who would normally come off at Badentoy - they will have to come off at north instead and, as Roads Lady has said, the diversion route has to be shown to take them to the point they would have been at had they come off at their normal exit ie the Muirend rbt, no matter how ridiculous that may seem in a wee place like Portlethetn :P :P
A quick keek at the other link to the Council webpage, the bit which lists this map amongst some others states 'During the construction period a number of critical junctions may be closed for periods of time' - so to me that means junctions not dual carriageway :P :P :P :P
Anyways I will end again by saying that I could be totally wrong but - tbh I don't really mind if I am cos I don't have to sit in the rush hour, but I bet most people are hoping I'm right :bounncy: :bounncy: :bounncy:
Bysie bye
Diane xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
diversion route
Bypass Fan - I'm sorry that you feel that you were being accused of "lying" that certainly wan't the intention and as you were obviously given the wrong information I would love to find out where this information came from as there are NO plans to divert southbound traffic through Portlethen.
As for the diversion route showing Muirend Road - If you are producing plans to outline a diversion you must show the diverted route to the starting point of the original route, ie if people are used to entering Portlethen via the Badentoy Junction, then the diverted route must lead them to that point and they can start their journey from that point - sorry I know this sound confusing but it is difficult to explain via text :comp
If you want to find out why the contractors have been delayed I suggest you contact BEAR Scotland.
Would it not have been the road lady who told him,as she claims to have been handing out the information.I was told it was a diversion for southbound traffic and it says on the map quite clearly southbound diversion.Methinks there is some back pedalling afoot here by the cooncil.
Aww, poor wee Bypass Fan, getting awfy upset there sweetie - calm doon its only a messageboard :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: and I think you'll find no-one 'insinuating' anyone is 'lying', merely suggesting my interpretation of the map is somewhat different to yours and note that I did say 'I could be wrong' as I am well aware that my brain cells have been dying off rapidly with age and alcohol :P :P
However, perhaps you should reread the post from our Roads Lady (helloooo there poppet, bit spooky we posted at the same time earlier, great minds and all that...) as I rather suspect she knows exactly what she is talking about being officially involved with it so to speak :P
Diane xxxx
Sorry that should be turning right onto Muirend Road,I am just so damn angry
at the insinuation I am lying.
Sorry Diane but check the route, traffic is coming off the southbound lane down Cookston Road turning left onto Muirend Road to the roundabout and continue south.If this was a diversion for portlethen residents they wouldnt need to go anywhere near Muirend Road.I also heard today that the roadworkds have been delayed but no reason given as to why,could it be the cock up with this diversion.
Sorry to argue here but I was specifically told that ALL southbound traffic will divert through portlethen for six weeks,one lane will be opened at peak times.I am not the only one claiming to have been told the same information.
Portlethen Roadworks
Bypass fan, can I please say that it was myself that manned all sessions at Asda and to clarify the drawing that is on the web and at Asda details the "southbound diverision for Portlethen Traffic" when the "southbound off ramp into Portlethen is closed" nowhere does it state that all southbound traffic has to divert through Portlethen.
Hope this resolves this issue :P
Hiya, well I've had a quick keek at that map and to me it looks like it is a diversion route purely for when the Badentoy slip road is closed cos it doesn't mention an A90 closure at all??? I read it that the southbound traffic referred to is traffic that normally comes off at Badentoy for the south of Portlethen and they will need to be diverted via the north slip road for 6 weeks while Badentoy is upgraded - the diversion route seems to just be their route for getting to the roundabout at Muirend where they normally come off at which seems a bit unneccessary as they aren't likely to get lost but probably has to be done as part of the planning!
Could be wrong but thats my interpretation of it :P :P
Diane xxx
http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/roads/48799tabe_130_003.pdf
http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/roads/trunk.asp
I was very specific when I asked about the diversion and was told it was "for all traffic travelling South for a six week period". And it states that on the map on the council website.
Thanks for being so quick :P
Take care
Diane x
ps Melanie and Ella - a school night indeed, was a very tired mummy on the school walk the next day :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Portlethen Roadworks
At the request of Diane - can I please clarify a few points
1 - The dual carriageway will remain open and will not be diverted through Portlethen. The plans at Asda detail the diversion routes for those entering Portlethen
2- During peak period (ie when demand is at its highest) the contractors have indicated that they will keep two lanes open in both directions.
3- There will be a 50mph speed limit in place between Badentoy flyover and Charlestone Flyover.
4 - The new link road will have tunnels under the A90 at Portlethen and at Marywell
If you would like to view the plans they are on aberdeenshire's website - or will be on display at Asda (portlethen) for one more week.
Oops sorry Ella, the sun is in my eyes. :signduh:
Ellan you can sure kill a thread. :mrgreen:
Has anyone been to asda then and gotten any conflicting info.
jist fit I wiz thinkin,hiv yae seen a the flattened bushes on her road hame,she must hiv caused mair damage thin the roadwurks.
:eeeeek:
What were you doing out drinking wine on a school night?
Okay peeps, as a stay-at-home-tree-hugging-mummy who doesn't have to give a rats a**e about A90's and rush hours etc :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I think I may know someone who might be able to give a more informed view of the whole scenario to you so will ask her ( she's a lovely lass who works for one of the companies and knows a whole lot more about road engineering than most of us would ever care to!!!) for some info and pop it on here :P
PS can you tell I've spent the eveining in Quoiters imbibing far too much of the red juice..............
Diane xxx
I was in today as was several neighbours and we all have conflicting information.The dualler stays open with one lane oh no its closed completely,we couldnt have listened properly. :3some:
I'm going up to Asda tomorrow to have a look see - it all sounds pretty horrendous for everyone concerned and its presented like a fait accompli - as usual Mr and Mrs Public dont have an opinion or say in the matter. :comp :comp Typical of the coonsil :xcensoredx:
The smell is not as bad as it was but this isnt the issue here is it.if you want to discuss the smell start another thread this one is about roadworks.
re the smell: Have you lost your sense of smell, only yesterday driving into Portlethen (from Aberdeen) to go to Asda I had to close window because of the smell, who on earth suggested putting a sheltered housing complex beside it??? Also try telling the Homebase staff there's no smell!!!!
Road works
Good point Neal, lets hope all the carers and the OOSC are patient.
I guess the inconvenience will become the norm after the first 8-10 weeks.
Then when its all over (Xmas 2007 at a rough guess) we will feel blessed.
But no, because when the road is finished, we will then have to combat all the trucks going to the house building sites; just goes to prove A MAJOR CONSTANT IN LIFE IS CHANGE.
To the respondent who mentioned challenging the plans - another constant is the struggle to be heard in such matters.
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this detracts from the issue.
how many parents who work in town will have their journeys home delayed because of this,getting the people who care for kids after school to kep them longer will not be easy and how many mums time their jouneys home after work to be in as the kids come home from school,how many kids will be going home to a locked door because mum has been delayed.
As a side issue I work at McIntosh Donalds and the smell is practically non existant nowadays.Yes there have been problems but nothing like it used to be years ago and certainly not to stop anyone shopping in portlethen.
Thats your opinion. You already know mine. Thanks for the debate though.